tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post4044325799768647526..comments2024-02-05T00:16:13.698-05:00Comments on Banjo52: Bishop's "One Art," Day TwoBanjo52http://www.blogger.com/profile/04342397136888422440noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-55165597613400395622011-05-26T10:09:32.762-04:002011-05-26T10:09:32.762-04:00Barbaro, your important comment almost slipped by ...Barbaro, your important comment almost slipped by me. Sorry. <br /><br />Don't you think Pinsky paints a rather rosy picture? Granted, poetry seems as embedded in the human psyche as painting is. It won't go away. But it also will never fetch a living wage for the poets--maybe for their readings, conferences, and teaching gigs, but not for the poems on the page. So maybe poetry does need advocates, though I don't think then thousand advocates will change certain facts of the matter. <br /><br />Macbeth speaks of "mouth-honor," one of the GREAT labels of all time. Don't you think mouth-honor is what most cultures, including ours, offer to poets (and teachers!).Banjo52https://www.blogger.com/profile/04342397136888422440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-21926925801407824172011-05-25T20:15:50.817-04:002011-05-25T20:15:50.817-04:00Brenda, good stuff. If you're not arguing, yo...Brenda, good stuff. If you're not arguing, you're stone--whether it's poem or paraphrase. Well, maybe. At any rate I used to assign students to find part of a work they disagreed with or didn't like and tell the rest of us about it. Any lemming can worship canonical stuff, but can they tell us why? As you can see, I spend too much time arguing with myself.<br /><br />RuneE, good. I'm a bit of a sucker about football and baseball. And who knew that "Esiason" was a Norwegian name!Banjo52https://www.blogger.com/profile/04342397136888422440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-63642927886304104482011-05-25T16:50:18.322-04:002011-05-25T16:50:18.322-04:00Banjo 52: Thank you so much for the info about &qu...Banjo 52: Thank you so much for the info about "my speaker". I seem to remember that this was what was said at the introduction.Rune Eidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01008247272056395901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-91199783144701650072011-05-25T16:15:28.445-04:002011-05-25T16:15:28.445-04:00Love Barbaro's paraphrase of Pinsky. Good one!...Love Barbaro's paraphrase of Pinsky. Good one!<br />I love this poem of Bishop's! On a good day, you can nod with each loss, saying "yea, I have been there". Even the last loss, the disaster, you can nod with it. <br />But on a losing day, I argue with her. I tell her "Don't tell me how to get over this!" Arguing with a poem... I rarely argue with paraphrases! <br />Or do we?<br />Good one, Banjomyn. And great comments by your followers!Brenda's Arizonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17880225110712592548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-17915409311501540002011-05-25T09:59:07.300-04:002011-05-25T09:59:07.300-04:00I'm not much of a poet, so I can't comment...I'm not much of a poet, so I can't comment on the poem's comment(ators)<br />:-)<br /> However, I can appreciate the photos and the story told her: From the lonely girl on the stone stairs to the students enjoying the learning process.<br /><br />PS Thank you for the nice comment :-)<br />As for the title - look in the upper right corner ...Rune Eidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01008247272056395901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-78459050899734072772011-05-24T12:55:15.533-04:002011-05-24T12:55:15.533-04:00I tend to agree with Wil, in that when you take so...I tend to agree with Wil, in that when you take something apart to see all the pieces and then put it back together, you may get it to work again, just never quite as well as before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-46325721096734280332011-05-23T23:05:41.341-04:002011-05-23T23:05:41.341-04:00Robert Pinsky on Lehrer NewsHour two nights ago: &...Robert Pinsky on Lehrer NewsHour two nights ago: "I don't think poetry needs an advocate. It's too large and fundamental for that." I guess that means it doesn't need paraphrasing, but also that it wouldn't hurt to do so.Barbarohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04038516078498541056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-64135280302604917682011-05-23T22:12:54.390-04:002011-05-23T22:12:54.390-04:00uh oh, I'm feeling the need to dig out my juni...uh oh, I'm feeling the need to dig out my junior high poetry. Chock full of references to bugs and dead goldfish. Humored the teacher (before she called in the school psychologist).<br /><br />Reader Wil; think de-construction/post modernism/Derrida. He's French. When all else fails, blame the French.<br /><br />To Jeff...I don't know about "the country", but they've invaded the house next door (developer flip project). And they brought a radio.Pasadena Adjacenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09031325790590238246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-48809163305435388112011-05-23T21:25:22.630-04:002011-05-23T21:25:22.630-04:00Homer--"rosy-fingered dawn."
The unexp...Homer--"rosy-fingered dawn." <br /><br />The unexpectedness of your last 4 lines and the shifts there--that's what I like best, though they're a jolt.Banjo52https://www.blogger.com/profile/04342397136888422440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-21473013206731636422011-05-23T09:18:07.351-04:002011-05-23T09:18:07.351-04:00No, it's an original, written in about 20 minu...No, it's an original, written in about 20 minutes during the predawn hours, a time that Homer loved best.<br /><br />Reader Wil,<br />When reading poetry, don't think so much.Jeff Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-60870859700887798852011-05-23T02:36:05.563-04:002011-05-23T02:36:05.563-04:00Poetry is something that makes me suspicious. Is a...Poetry is something that makes me suspicious. Is a poem an honest piece of one's mind? Is it really poetry or just a couple of words that rhyme? Most modern poetry is without rhyme or reason. I remember the anecdote of one of our wellknown authors, who wrote a book when he was still a student at the secondary school. He put the book on his booklist under a pen-name. The examiners asked him about the book not knowing that he was the author. He explained the meaning of the book, but the examiners told him that he hadn't understood what the author of the book meant. Sometimes I think that poets take a couple of books, lay them on top of each other, read the titles from top to bottom and there's the beginning of a poem and the rest follows. Therefore it's difficult for an outsider to mark off the real poetry from the rubbish. I should read your previous posts. I really enjoy poems that are simple enough ,but as soon as I have to take a knife and have to cut the poem into pieces and have to explain each part separately, I feel like a Vandal destroying a beautiful piece of art. Change one word in a poem and you can either embellish it or make it vulgar.<br />Thank you for your visit Banjo52!Reader Wilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06384603525251159272noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-72706519963840850382011-05-22T21:11:37.621-04:002011-05-22T21:11:37.621-04:00Jeff, there's a lot to like here. Is it yours?...Jeff, there's a lot to like here. Is it yours? Merwin, Lorca, Harrison? I'm guessing Harrison, if not J.Martin.Banjo52https://www.blogger.com/profile/04342397136888422440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2883979841111173610.post-84372168570399897342011-05-22T09:49:28.717-04:002011-05-22T09:49:28.717-04:00At the mention (or thought, I should say) of a per...At the mention (or thought, I should say) of a perfect week, the monotone Mexican music popped open into the early air.<br /><br />From somewhere the Mexican music came, but most definitely it was from a radio for it had that hot afternoon radio<br /><br />on a car hood sound. Are Mexicans really invading this country like they say? It's 6:15 a.m. on Sunday and the Mexican music<br /><br />arm wrestles the bird chirps, and wins. It won't stop until it does and it does without announcement and the birds have<br /><br />the roller rink all to themselves again. Did I tell you that I flew in a B-17 bomber and that I was there with an 11-year-old boy<br /><br />when he caught the first fish of his life?<br /><br />--- Jeff MartinJeff Mnoreply@blogger.com